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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:51 am | |
| Name: Self-Healing Technique Rank: S Type: Medical Ninjutsu Element: None Range: Self Handseals: Monkey Speed: None Description: After forming the Monkey hand sign, the user seals away chakra pre-kneaded for healing with the Uzumaki Sealing Technique. This technique lasts for the entire topic that it's used. The seal activates upon detecting injuries on the user. The user pays the initial 70 chakra requirement to utilize a S-Rank technique, and from that point the technique only drains if they are inflicted with damage. The technique does not work if the user is decapitated. The user can only cheat death up to two times, and after the second the physical aging of their body is reduced to the equivalent at a child's. They receive -10 to all physical stats, and remain at that same physical age until they utilize the Age Transfusion Technique. Requires Uzumaki Clan DNA, 5 Medical Ninjutsu, 3 Fuuinjutsu, +10 A-Rank Fuuinjutsu/Medical Ninjutsu.
Minor to Moderate wounds: 10 Chakra Limb: 20 Chakra Fatal: 40 Chakra Bifurcation(Horizontal): 60 Chakra
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:47 am | |
| Limited? Duh, it's basically creation rebirth and strength of a hundred by the *description* of it | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:52 pm | |
| alright. so does that imply that it's approvable? or does it need any tweaks? lemme know. i edited the description a bit more, and added chakra requirements for injuries. | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:41 am | |
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Daisuke Minatoya Ansho Kiri Jounin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:02 am | |
| So, you have 70 points to heal any wound during the time this is active, correct? If so, I'd like you to add a cooldown for this I'll let you chose though, my suggestions are either
Once per topic
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CD for 6 posts before this can be used again | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:38 pm | |
| no it requires 70 chakra for initial usage, then the user has to spend the chakra listed to heal certain wounds afterward. | |
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Daisuke Minatoya Ansho Kiri Jounin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:22 pm | |
| Mk. With how that works at this second then, that can't be approved. Yes, even though it's a limited. It essentially makes you immortal as long as you have chakra. If it worked a bit more like CR or something it'd be easier to approve. Hence my question.
I would suggest making it a bit more like that or give it a cooldown/duration. | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:48 pm | |
| even with the bigass chakra drain and the large amount of requirements. what if the user had to pay upkeep for the jutsu every 2-3 turns? | |
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Daisuke Minatoya Ansho Kiri Jounin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:10 pm | |
| 600/70= Roughly 8. You literally can cheat death about 8 times. So yes, even with S rank upkeep which is only 35 chakra, it's huge advantage that simply isn't approvable at this point in time.
Lets check the math, lets say it costs S rank chakra every 2 posts, and it's 10 posts. So that's 5 posts of upkeep costs. Which is 35x5, 170, with 170 chakra taken from 600, that's 425, That lowers the amount of times you can cheat death to about 6.
That's still kinda high. Do you see where I'm coming from? Cheating death once or twice, is acceptable. Take for example Orochimaru's Snake Reincarnation Jutsu, it cheats death 1 time at a huge cost. You become super vulnerable and you don't have a body for the duration.
I can see, perhaps a couple things you could do to save this atm. 1, lower the amount of times this can be used by limited how many times you can cheat death. 2, add in debilitating effects to your character the longer it stays on, or 3, Add in a cooldown/Duration. | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:38 pm | |
| - Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
- 600/70= Roughly 8. You literally can cheat death about 8 times. So yes, even with S rank upkeep which is only 35 chakra, it's huge advantage that simply isn't approvable at this point in time.
Lets check the math, lets say it costs S rank chakra every 2 posts, and it's 10 posts. So that's 5 posts of upkeep costs. Which is 35x5, 170, with 170 chakra taken from 600, that's 425, That lowers the amount of times you can cheat death to about 6.
That's still kinda high. Do you see where I'm coming from? Cheating death once or twice, is acceptable. Take for example Orochimaru's Snake Reincarnation Jutsu, it cheats death 1 time at a huge cost. You become super vulnerable and you don't have a body for the duration.
I can see, perhaps a couple things you could do to save this atm. 1, lower the amount of times this can be used by limited how many times you can cheat death. 2, add in debilitating effects to your character the longer it stays on, or 3, Add in a cooldown/Duration. Hm... how about having it where I can only cheat death up to 3 times, regardless of how much chakra I have left. In addition, after the 3rd time my physical age is reduced to that of a child's. My actual age won't reduce btw. Also how about a -10 to all four physical stats and 100 reduction from base chakra. These drawbacks wouldn't go away until after I use my age-technique or w/e to recover my lost physical age. That good? | |
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Daisuke Minatoya Ansho Kiri Jounin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:20 am | |
| That is MARGINALLY better. I'd prefer it be 2 times total though. With the third being narrow miss where your body doesn't fully heal itself. Perhaps internal scarring that causes additional pain when you move until you've rested/done your aging thing. And if that's ok with you, all we need to do us up the cost a tiny bit and it'll be good to go. | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:15 pm | |
| updated description to add drawbacks | |
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Hitomi Shiruku Kiri Jounin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:54 pm | |
| While you did lower it down quite drastically, it's still very off putting even for a limited
first: 2 times is fine, but both times needs a drawback, not just the second time, otherwise you're really getting a freebie for the first time you use this.
second: The -10 in stats, sure this is a drawback but not much of one for nearly losing your life. I mean if you're healing yourself from a possible near death attack, I'd probably see more than just 10 honestly.
third: Requirements, that's very specific almost too specific. I mean granted this is a limited but at the same time having all of these would make this limited near useless to have or need. Perhaps tone it down to maybe 4-5 requirements rather than 7.
HOWEVER!
some good things to keep~
first: I like the idea of it not working with decapitation etc. That was a good move to make seeing as that's very realistic.
second: The amount of chakra used to heal wounds is separated into forms of what wounds, and how severe they are in need of healing.
third: being used along with Age Transfusion Technique, I think that would be very interesting. Especially if someone didn't have that and ended up stuck as a child form forever, or rather didn't have the chakra for it and thus has to run around as a child-like state. Seems kinda cute :3
Oh uh also a small question if this is a Med Ninjutsu, then why isn't one of the requirements an amount of Med Ninjutsu? I mean it has Nin and Fuin...but where's the Med? | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:01 am | |
| - Hitomi Shiruku wrote:
- While you did lower it down quite drastically, it's still very off putting even for a limited
first: 2 times is fine, but both times needs a drawback, not just the second time, otherwise you're really getting a freebie for the first time you use this.
second: The -10 in stats, sure this is a drawback but not much of one for nearly losing your life. I mean if you're healing yourself from a possible near death attack, I'd probably see more than just 10 honestly.
third: Requirements, that's very specific almost too specific. I mean granted this is a limited but at the same time having all of these would make this limited near useless to have or need. Perhaps tone it down to maybe 4-5 requirements rather than 7.
1 - The second drawback is already very exponential, don't see why the first needs a drawback. 2 - The user keeps that -10 on their physical stats until they regain their physical age. That reduction is highly underrestimated. 3 - Each of the requirements are important to the jutsu itself. | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:48 pm | |
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Daisuke Minatoya Ansho Kiri Jounin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:22 pm | |
| Does the jutsu actually have a pain nullification effect as well? I'm curious because if it doesn't that could be the drawback that Hitomi might be ok with. Since you actually feel the pain of your body restitching itself back together.
Next is that I do know that -10 stats is hefty for someone who's not S rank. But an S rank can shrug off +10 stats fairly easily. Most people build their physical stats like Lee so their Strength Dur and Speed are super high. So maybe Hito would be appeased with 15-20 as a stat decrease. It's not THAT much higher so it shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Also, I did see the medical ninjutsu requirement. But that is a LOT of requirements. | |
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Erin Konoha Genin
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| Subject: Re: An Ultimate Medical Ninjutsu (Limited) Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:16 pm | |
| The -10 stat reduction is very impairing for any rank in my opinion. Why would a medical ninjutsu cause pain to the user? Shinobi have -great- pain resilience so that'd be a highly inefficient drawback. My point is that there's no reason for a drawback for the first time using this technique.
Changed the initial specific jutsu requirements to 10+ Medical Ninjutsu/Fuuinjutsu. | |
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